and i think that's what jim webb is saying. we have to come with a more general message that gives a little credit to the culture and a little respect to the culture. >> and yet, you were just previewing an ad for me that you're hitting eric cantor with, and it's on abortion. and abortion's always been one of these trickier things. it's effective politics in virginia. doug wilder became governor because of it, some would argue. but does that make it talking to white males -- >> you've got to remember the district we ran. you know, in richmond last year, they went for the transvaginal ultrasounds and all this craziness. with the seventh district, our exit poll says it's now 68%. you know, eric cantor is one of these guys who talks about, you know, government intrusion and how we don't need government intrusion. but yet, you know, he has been with todd akin on 32 different bills pushing this government intrusion into women's individual rights. >> i want to go back and close with a thought that we opened with, independents. can yo